I really like the topic!! All too often in the Alps, I have pondered over the question why certain peaks are referred to as "horn", even though oftentimes they are round in shape (see for example this photo) or as "Berg" (mount) or "Spitze" (peak), even though there doesn't seem to be any difference in shape. I've got to take the time to really read your article in detail!
Many cheers and greetings,
Eric
This discussion seems to pop up from time to time and people wondering what qualifies a peak vs a mountain or mount (or point, or spire, or butte or.... well you get the idea!).
An interesting one in Colorado is Kit Carson Mountain. The "Mountain" is actually 3 separate summits each with 300'+ of prominence - the highest being Kit Carson Peak with the 2 sub-summits being Challenger Point and Columbia Point. So in that case "Mountain" refers to a group of summits with "Peak" being the highest summit, and the 2 "points" being the lesser summits.
I ran a BMA (Bayesian Model Averaging) selection on 6 variables: elevation, prominence, isolation, elev*prom, elev*iso, and prom*iso (these latter 3 consider interactions). I also considered whether the first letter of the name had any correlation with the summit type (it didn't). The BMA analysis indicated that elev, iso, and prom*iso were the only significant variables.
This is a great article! It reminds me of a long running discussion my brother and I have had about the difference between creeks and rivers. At least out here in northern CA, there are some major waterways that we think ought to be considered rivers and the converse. Anyway, great, informative article!
This is the best idea for an article I have seen for quite some time. It's a very interesting topic for the mountain-obsessed. I read it on my internet phone while driving with Redwic out to do a peak Saturday morning. Thanks for making it available.
Wow, I never thought I'd see R on SummitPost. What has the world come to? Thanks for analysis. Kinda funky. Wish you didn't go to UW. Otherwise I might have been "inspired" by your work for Stat 564.
I used R as my statistical computing software. Free and easy.
I got a 4.0 in the class, so I must have impressed the professor with my final project since going into the final project I felt like I had sacrificed some of my performance in my stats class for too much playing in the North Cascades....
EricChu - Mar 21, 2010 5:20 pm - Voted 10/10
Good page!I really like the topic!! All too often in the Alps, I have pondered over the question why certain peaks are referred to as "horn", even though oftentimes they are round in shape (see for example this photo) or as "Berg" (mount) or "Spitze" (peak), even though there doesn't seem to be any difference in shape. I've got to take the time to really read your article in detail!
Many cheers and greetings,
Eric
Dean - Mar 22, 2010 7:22 am - Voted 10/10
Long overdueJust a neat idea for a page and well presented.
chicagotransplant - Mar 22, 2010 11:50 am - Voted 10/10
Interesting TopicThis discussion seems to pop up from time to time and people wondering what qualifies a peak vs a mountain or mount (or point, or spire, or butte or.... well you get the idea!).
An interesting one in Colorado is Kit Carson Mountain. The "Mountain" is actually 3 separate summits each with 300'+ of prominence - the highest being Kit Carson Peak with the 2 sub-summits being Challenger Point and Columbia Point. So in that case "Mountain" refers to a group of summits with "Peak" being the highest summit, and the 2 "points" being the lesser summits.
cp0915 - Mar 22, 2010 4:24 pm - Voted 10/10
Rockin'Good fun!
mrh - Mar 25, 2010 12:12 pm - Voted 10/10
ExcellentGreat idea, I really enjoyed reading this. I hope you got an A.
Augie Medina - Mar 26, 2010 2:26 pm - Voted 10/10
Interesting WorkRe FortMental's quote (tongue in cheek I'm sure): the obvious doesn't become obvious until the analysis has been done.
Question: were there any other independent variables besides the 3 that you considered using but didn't for whatever reason?
StephAbegg - Mar 26, 2010 4:01 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Interesting WorkI ran a BMA (Bayesian Model Averaging) selection on 6 variables: elevation, prominence, isolation, elev*prom, elev*iso, and prom*iso (these latter 3 consider interactions). I also considered whether the first letter of the name had any correlation with the summit type (it didn't). The BMA analysis indicated that elev, iso, and prom*iso were the only significant variables.
desainme - Mar 26, 2010 10:33 pm - Voted 10/10
Snowmass Mountainis now the highest mountain in the lower 48!
lcarreau - Mar 28, 2010 9:23 am - Voted 10/10
California ?Why was Lassen (volcano) called a peak, and not a mount ???
I thought all of the snow-capped volcanoes along the "Ring of Fire"
were suppose to be called 'mounts.'
It makes me want to "mount my steed" and visit Washington state!
Brad Marshall - Mar 28, 2010 9:28 am - Voted 10/10
Nice WorkExcellent page. Must have taken a lot of time and effort to complete. Hope you did well on your report, I was certainly impressed.
Aaron Johnson - Mar 28, 2010 11:49 am - Hasn't voted
Fun StuffA bit analytical for my style, but it's intersting! Thanks for "loaning" your article to SP. Nicely written and very nicely presented!
Bubba Suess - Mar 29, 2010 12:12 pm - Voted 10/10
Creeks and Rivers?This is a great article! It reminds me of a long running discussion my brother and I have had about the difference between creeks and rivers. At least out here in northern CA, there are some major waterways that we think ought to be considered rivers and the converse. Anyway, great, informative article!
gimpilator - Mar 29, 2010 1:47 pm - Voted 10/10
Great MaterialThis is the best idea for an article I have seen for quite some time. It's a very interesting topic for the mountain-obsessed. I read it on my internet phone while driving with Redwic out to do a peak Saturday morning. Thanks for making it available.
StephAbegg - Mar 29, 2010 2:49 pm - Hasn't voted
Got my grade...Thanks everyone for enjoying my final project for my stats class. Apparently my professor enjoyed it as well, since I got an A!
Simnel - Mar 30, 2010 6:21 pm - Voted 10/10
ExcellentSimply... 10/10
EverydayExplorer - Mar 30, 2010 10:46 pm - Voted 10/10
SummitPost is my escapeWow, I never thought I'd see R on SummitPost. What has the world come to? Thanks for analysis. Kinda funky. Wish you didn't go to UW. Otherwise I might have been "inspired" by your work for Stat 564.
haivanhuynh - Mar 31, 2010 7:45 pm - Voted 10/10
Good jobThanks for this.
stinkycheezman33 - Apr 1, 2010 10:06 am - Voted 10/10
very interesting...i took one look at this, and knew it had to be a fellow engineer...
nice work!
dien2liv - Apr 1, 2010 12:37 pm - Hasn't voted
sweetare you using SPSS or SAS for your analysis? good work, what grade did you get on this project ??
StephAbegg - Apr 1, 2010 2:48 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: sweetI used R as my statistical computing software. Free and easy.
I got a 4.0 in the class, so I must have impressed the professor with my final project since going into the final project I felt like I had sacrificed some of my performance in my stats class for too much playing in the North Cascades....