jplotz - Nov 2, 2008 9:33 pm - Hasn't voted
You're exaggerating...The rock protects well, as well as granite. I've never had a piece pull in a fall. Pilot error is what kills.
x15x15 - Nov 17, 2008 6:41 pm - Hasn't voted
You're Wrong...The rock is choss and hitting the ground is what kills...
cbcbd - Oct 19, 2009 1:58 pm - Voted 10/10
huh?I understand that some of the cracks at Vantage take a little more tinkering to get just right - most cams, especially in the bigger cracks, you should extend with runners just to avoid walking into bigger slots of the cracks, ultimately losing your placement - but the rock is solid and as long as you don't place a piece in a loose block then you should be fine. I agree with jplotz, although I do also agree that the ground has a tendency to be too hard for falling humans.
x15x15 - Jun 22, 2011 10:57 pm - Hasn't voted
I'm Rightno, the rock is choss. not saying you need to get out a little more, but, the rock is choss... and YES, the ground is too hard. plus, i've placed a piece or two and understand the value of runners, but losing your placement? that never happened to me when i climbed at vantage in the 90's... but get real, i think josh is choss, and that place is head and shoulders above the vantage choss...
course, this was before the huge sporto, cool to climb craze hit vantage. so maybe, all the choss HAS been scrubbed clean...
Ethan626 - Dec 20, 2011 3:25 am - Hasn't voted
ChossThere is plenty of choss at vantage.
Most/all the popular routes are pretty darn clean though. Alot of routes have hallow/loose sections though which is worth noting. Though most of the popular routes on the sunshine are solid.
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