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Rick B - Nov 23, 2006 11:17 am - Voted 8/10
Re: In defense of my shoe sizeAHA!
Shoe sizes, good point! The imperical system is faaaaaar more easier for shoe sizes, since everybody simply has size "1" ! Saves you a whole lot of time in the shoe store looking for the right size! ;-)
Ejnar Fjerdingstad - Nov 23, 2006 1:55 pm - Voted 1/10
Re: In defense of my shoe sizeI dont't really care, I look at the vote as my expression of what I think about the article. In the score it would be drowned out by pro-feet votes of 10 anyway.
Bob Sihler - Nov 24, 2006 5:25 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: In defense of my voteYour reply cracked me up. I liked the original, with the dance scene, better, but this is still good. I suppose some could see it as a taunt, but I think it's pretty funny. Good job!
desainme - Nov 22, 2006 3:44 pm - Voted 10/10
Original measurmentsPaccard's barometer was marked in inches because it was of English manufacture. His temperature records and those of Baron Gensdorf who observed the first ascent from Chamonix were in degrees F.
Furthermore in mid eighteenth century Mont Blanc was a mere 2000er when measured in French Fathoms:
[Jacques-Barthélemy Micheli du Crest to Johann Jacob Huber]
Aarbourg mars 1754:
il s’ensuit toujours par mon calcul que cette montagne [Mont Blanc] doit avoir sur Ia mer 2438 toises [4750 meters] d’hauteur
A Paris Toise or French Fathom = 6.39 ft.
lalpinist - Nov 22, 2006 4:58 pm - Hasn't voted
bothYou need to be conversant in both, as you will come across maps and other things that are in one or the other. Learn how to switch over that altimeter and practice working in both!
The flaw in your "driving in england" analogy is that while you can do both, you can't do both at the same time, or at the same place. Marking meters and feet on the same map would make a cluttered mess, and may even obscure information.
Great article!
camartinez - Nov 23, 2006 1:12 am - Hasn't voted
I feel the opposite way about feetsGood reasoning but not convincement for me, I feel the same you feel about meters. There´s no sense you use feets due feets are different size from person to person.
Decimal system is much better I think, and when I talk about meters I have a good reference of how high a thing is(building,mountains, towers etc.).
But as you can see you´re going to keep using feets instead feets so don´t worry about it.....ehehhehhe.
Ario - Nov 23, 2006 2:27 am - Hasn't voted
U - rope !It’s getting intense here !! Needs some teasing ;-)
Have no problem with your preferences, but how the heck you ended up with the idea of people driving on the left side of the road in Europe?!! Are you limiting the whole continent to few islands (United Kingdom and its former territories of Ireland – sorry guys s.. happens, Malta and Cyprus) ?!!! In the continental Europe no body drives on the left side of the road if not due to low blood level in her/his alcohol (talk to your Ukrainian prof., he’ll explain ;-) !! Now, knowing your preferences for the “foot” you might also consider another controversy: why you guys keep on calling what most people in the world (including the British) call football by the name of… hum, how the heck do you spell this damn word? “so..”, “su…” or something?!!
Just joking ;-) liked the article though !
bbirtle - Nov 25, 2006 11:40 am - Voted 6/10
63 comments?It's heated crazy important debates like this one that make me proud to be a summit post member.
Yawn.
Hoffman - Nov 26, 2006 1:08 am - Hasn't voted
pro metersI grew up in the US and I was taught feet and have a very good grasp of feet, however if the people who taught me (schools, family, magizines, ect..) had been in meters i would understand them like the rest of the world does. I think all the old folks out there holding on to "culture" just to hold on to it are also holding back todays youth. Lets progress to meters it make sence.
Joeyroo - Nov 28, 2006 5:14 pm - Hasn't voted
Scuba DivingI am in the US and I dislike using English/"Standard " units for scuba diving. Calculations are easy to do in my head with metric.
depth
0m = 1 atm = 0'
10m = 2 atm = 33'
20m = 3 atm = 66'
And why do we mix units in the US? We buy tires in a metric-English unit mix.
ex: 225/45R17 = 225mm width, 45% side wall ratio, 17" rim
BobK - Nov 29, 2006 1:48 pm - Hasn't voted
Too many feetHm... I grew up in the US but have spent most of my time since living abroad. I like to use feet for distances, say, under 10 feet, anything over that and I prefer meters. I can relate to 10 meters, 30 feet just seems like too many small units to keep track of, and it gets worse the greater the distance: 150 feet, why not 50 meters? I can relate to climbing 30 meters to the next good belay anchor, but 100 feet? that's too many feet to picture in my mind's eye.
Big Benn - Dec 1, 2006 3:15 pm - Voted 10/10
A well written amusing articleNever mind the controversy, I found it very amusing! And don't forget guys and girls, when you come over the pond to drive in the UK. Red, blue and yellow cars drive on the left still. All other colours of cars drive on the right.
Jeroen Vels - Dec 12, 2006 11:05 pm - Hasn't voted
If you think it's hard...to calculate with meters or feet, try changing your currency. That's what happend to us in Europe some years ago and I'm still not used to it. Now I spend way more money than I used to!! :-(
€ 1,00 = fl. 2,2. This means you have "less" money, but you spent it just as easely.
GIVE ME BACK THE OLD CURRENCY!! Please?
Moni - Dec 12, 2006 11:19 pm - Hasn't voted
A foot is not always a foot!There is a difference between the international and the US foot!
Me? I'd rather work in chains, the original unit system used for surveying in the US. Much easier and converts easily to metric.
1 chain = 100 links (so it is a decimal system) = 66 feet or very close to 20 meters. 1 mile = 80 chains and 10 square chains = 1 acre. You don't think anyone in their right mind really came up with 5280 feet in a mile and 43560 sq feet per acre for the heck of it? That's because everything used to be done in chains. In my profession, it is still easier to work in chains. And since the chain is very close to 20 meters, converting to meters, km, and hectares is not big deal.
AlaskaMan16 - Dec 13, 2006 11:33 pm - Voted 10/10
Yeah!!!Go Feet!!! Awesome article.
robojeda - Dec 18, 2006 9:38 pm - Hasn't voted
ArbitraryI enjoyed reading the article. It made me laugh. Me, I like both systems. Where one sucks the other sucks less. Harmony
lalpinist - Feb 12, 2007 10:17 pm - Hasn't voted
foot=forearmYour foot is always the same length as your forearm. Maybe we should measure in forearms.
donhaller3 - Mar 31, 2007 5:30 pm - Hasn't voted
Nothing sacredAbout either system. The big advantage for the metric system is that it is a complete rationalized decimal system of physical units. BUT
Summitpost related observation: trying to make a fatigued brain convert from meters on your altimeter to feet on your map and back as it gets dark and the rain or snow pours down is a very unpleasant experience. One may wish to keep one's own self rationalized, either in feet or meters.
yesak - Feb 28, 2012 1:08 am - Voted 7/10
enjoyedthe article. im sure laughing at the oponions from people based on what they learned first in life being defended so boldly. good article. it was meant for humor and it was fun reading. I too am for feet, but I do so hope to be more versed in understanding meters as life unfolds.
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