yatsek - Aug 31, 2009 7:38 am - Hasn't voted
Looks FamiliarTo me, again, are you absolutely positive you didn't shoot this in Poronin? LOL
visentin - Aug 31, 2009 8:20 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Looks FamiliarNo, this is the Czarna Tatranska, not the Bialka
yatsek - Aug 31, 2009 8:29 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Looks FamiliarI see:D BTW Can "Vielle Aure" be translated into English?
visentin - Aug 31, 2009 8:44 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Looks FamiliarNone of the two words. Aure is the name of the valley. Contrary to what most of the people think, Vielle is not "vieille" ("old"). There are many villages called "Vielle" in the french Pyrenees, as well as "Vielha" or even "Bielsa" in Spain, which mean "village". We call it Vielle-Aure to differenciate it from the others in other valleys
yatsek - Aug 31, 2009 8:59 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Looks FamiliarCan you bivouac up there on the slopes around the village? On the parent page there's a pic of a designated camping area: ?
And, as for the word "aure" - do locals not link it to "gold" or "wind/breeze" (likely Latin connection)?
visentin - Aug 31, 2009 9:14 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Looks FamiliarJust around the village, no, but far enough from any inhabitation, without any problem as long as you "bivouac" and not "camp".
Those mentionned in the Lustou page are in the Rioumajou Valley (I posted pics of this magnficent valley), where, due to its reputation of excellent trailhead, too many people rather camp than bivouac, hence controlled... I was there 2 weeks ago, it's a real tragedy, wild barbecues here and there, camping-cars, and so on.. high time they manage it like the TANAP ! ;)
yatsek - Aug 31, 2009 9:26 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Looks FamiliarNo no no more TANAPS!!! It'll be enough to enforce the law that already exists - you say "camping" is forbidden, isn't it?
visentin - Aug 31, 2009 9:41 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Looks FamiliarI'd enforce the winter closure till June 15th and the offtrails rules. But I'd keep Chocholowska and Koscieliska for pedestrians only !
Camping => tent all day
Bivouac => tent from dusk till dawn, nothing the rest of the time
yatsek - Aug 31, 2009 9:58 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Looks FamiliarWhy winter out???
visentin - Aug 31, 2009 10:39 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Looks Familiaryou mean why I'd enforce TANAP's winter closure ? Because I think June 15th could be reduced to May 15th in most places...
Talking Pyrenees, there is no such closure...
yatsek - Aug 31, 2009 1:30 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Looks FamiliarNo closure, no prohibition (no trace left either) - that's what I want :)
visentin - Sep 1, 2009 2:22 am - Hasn't voted
Re: Looks Familiarhowever, would you let cars drive up into the end of the valleys and people camp permanently in the heart of beautiful places ?
yatsek - Sep 1, 2009 3:17 pm - Hasn't voted
Re: Looks FamiliarNo way.
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