I understand that ACH is opening the first weekend of December.

Really?? All the way?

Wow, that was fast. Need to get up with my road bike before the masses return.

fatdad wrote:Wow, that was fast. Need to get up with my road bike before the masses return.

...and we all know that it will be closed down again after the first significant rain...

Gary Schenk wrote:Hopefully some big sections will get wiped out this year due to the fire and rains. With the budget crisis, maybe they'll let it rot along with Hwy 39.

They'll threaten too. Then they'll raise some taxes. Then they'll let it rot anyway.

i hope they've built it bomb proof this time! am i the only one that likes the ACH?

Figures we finally get some progress towards opening Mt Williamson again and now the road will be gone...

Gary, why do you hate ACH?

x15x15 wrote:i hope they've built it bomb proof this time! am i the only one that likes the ACH?

I love ACH but not the crowds. I definitely hope the seasonal closure between Vincent Gap and Islip saddle remains in effect.

Gary Schenk wrote:

ksolem wrote:Figures we finally get some progress towards opening Mt Williamson again and now the road will be gone...

Gary, why do you hate ACH?

I love long approaches. And want to see the San Gabriels go wild again, at least as much as possible.

Well, they did go wild, as in burned to the ground

I believe that is actually the day they are going to reopen the section from La Canada to Angeles Forest Highway - not the entire route.

Scott M. wrote:I believe that is actually the day they are going to reopen the section from La Canada to Angeles Forest Highway - not the entire route.

Ah, yes, that would make sense because some people from the north side of the San Gabriels actually use that road.

Scott M. wrote:I believe that is actually the day they are going to reopen the section from La Canada to Angeles Forest Highway - not the entire route.

I stand corrected. Yes, I talked to someone today that confirmed that it is only the section from La Canada to the with Angeles Forest Highway that will open.
these roads are the jurisdiction of CalTrans, and LA County.
Ironically, the foerst service would rather the roads remain closed.

If you're into reading about whether there should or should not be roads into the "wild," I would recommend the book Desert Solitaire by Edward Abbey. It describes his personal experience about being a ranger in Arches National Park, I think, before there was an official "road." Interesting reading, to say the least.

Gusto

Why not just close ACH from Red Box or Chilao up to Islip Saddle and open Hwy 39 up to Crystal lake, but with a toll and waiver signed to go up from where it's currently closed to public to help cover costs of maintenance and rangers or other NPS personnel to police against littering.

They could also limit vehicle size past Clear Creek to Red Box/Chilao and "reopened" Hwy 39 to keep out large "recreational" vehicles. And police PCT and Gabrielino trail to keep mt. bikers off of there. Plenty of other trails for them to roam.

ACH UPDATE: Will not open until late Spring

http://the818now.com/2010/03/22/angeles-crest-highway-to-remain-closed/

Note: I have not seen this press release on the CALTRANS website yet.

aaarghh! The folks who run Waterman must be beside themselves.